Good morning and hello in general

[Galwow]

Hello, a little late but still i thought i'd introduce myself

Mabinogi status: Completely new and sort of overwhelmed by the official server (in multiple ways, some good some bad)
Personal status (why exactly...? i dunno): Looking into the source code a lot because of interest in programming (but not changing anything since it's not my programm and i probably would have to do every step again if i changed anything without any sort of guidance)

Soo uh, hoping we get along here.

[exec]

Welcome~

6 hours ago, Galwow said:

because of interest in programming

Have you programmed before or is just general interest?

[Cryptic]

Welcome! You're probably one of the first that doesn't have a history with mabi. Though that's not a bad thing :P

[exec]

1 hour ago, Cryptic said:

Though that's not a bad thing

There's still time for him to run from devCAT's madness =P

[Galwow]

well i only have "programmed" once in unity (a character controller using c# strictly following a video tutorial about doing so hence the ")
and what's that about devCAT's madness? it's probably something about that cat in duncans house...?

oh and by the way is there any way to find some of the missing dialogue or is it lost because of the newer updates changing/replacing them? (like deians missing campfire dialogue)

Edited March 21, 2016 by Galwow

[Cryptic]

5 hours ago, Galwow said:

and what's that about devCAT's madness? it's probably something about that cat in duncans house...?

Noo... it's something much worse than that. You'll find out soon enough.

[Galwow]

much worse than some weird cat...? so i guess it's nothing random like that?
i could image that it's the cash-shop even though that's more "nexon" territory than devCAT's
well now i'm just more curious than before

[exec]

5 hours ago, Galwow said:

or is it lost because of the newer updates changing/replacing them?

That's exactly the problem in almost all cases where NPCs say that =/ We need someone who can properly translate official Japanese dialogues or come up with custom ones that fit the NPCs and environment. There's no way to get them from NA anymore.

7 minutes ago, Galwow said:

much worse than some weird cat...?

Much worse. The personified madness, the cat's creators.

[Galwow]

Just now, exec said:

Much worse. The personified madness, the cat's creators.

soo they made some weird npc's based on themselves? or is it just so weird that it's impossible to explain? or it's probably just something everyone should experience for themselve? you two are rather vague (it's not bothering it's just making me really curious as to when exactly that "madness" happens)

 

5 minutes ago, exec said:

That's exactly the problem in almost all cases where NPCs say that =/ We need someone who can properly translate official Japanese dialogues or come up with custom ones that fit the NPCs and environment. There's no way to get them from NA anymore.

where could i find those japanese dialogues? with some luck one of my friends could translate it roughly (she's learning japanese so that she can watch anime which didn't get any subtitles)

[exec]

Sorry, it's nothing that specific^^ devCAT is the name of the developer team, we're just talking about the way they do/code things =P

8 minutes ago, Galwow said:

where could i find those japanese dialogues?

I'll have to look them up.

[Galwow]

is their code that weird?
i honestly can't imagine what that would look like

[exec]

11 minutes ago, Galwow said:

is their code that weird?
i honestly can't imagine what that would look like

Hm, it's hard to find an example since I don't know your experience with the game. This is one of favorites: You know how when you talk to NPCs, that memo you have? With the keywords (Rumor, etc)? The server tells the client which keywords you have, so the client can display them for you to choose from. So far so logical. But there are also hidden keywords, that devCAT uses for things completely unrelated to NPCs. For example, if you don't have certain keywords, you can't use the Continent Warp. It just doesn't work, no errors, no nothing, the client doesn't react. Took me months to figure that out, and that was a total coincidence >_>

Figuring out such quirks can be a real challenge sometimes, and there's no shortage on quirks in Mabi^^

[Galwow]

that does indeed sound weird
or could it be some sort of protection?

[exec]

Just now, Galwow said:

that does indeed sound weird
or could it be some sort of protection?

Nope, it's just weird. They turned the keyword system into a general use boolean manager, to enable/disable features. It makes sense, to a certain degree. They needed one, the keyword system was there, why not use it? But figuring that out is hell^^

[Galwow]

it actually sounds quite interesting
it could be put like some sort of challenge to everyone trying to replicate the game
whoops i didn't see that reply sorry
i see, well if it works

it sure isn't straightforward (at least it doesn't sound like it is)

Edited March 21, 2016 by Galwow

[Miro]

On 3/21/2016 at 11:32 PM, Galwow said:

much worse than some weird cat...? so i guess it's nothing random like that?
i could image that it's the cash-shop even though that's more "nexon" territory than devCAT's
well now i'm just more curious than before

[Galwow]

what a cute littly kitty but why is it not in duncans house and why does it have the word "Devil" in it's name?
and just about how many of those are more or less hidden ingame?

[Cryptic]

4 hours ago, Galwow said:

what a cute littly kitty but why is it not in duncans house and why does it have the word "Devil" in it's name?
and just about how many of those are more or less hidden ingame?

It was on gm island on official back awhile ago. Xcelled posted a ton of scripts, which included that, but it looks like that was on the old forums. Maybe @exec could repost those :>

[exec]

1 hour ago, Cryptic said:

looks like that was on the old forums

I don't remember such a post on our forum, maybe you're thinking of the GM Island thread on Mabination?

[Cryptic]

5 minutes ago, exec said:

I don't remember such a post on our forum, maybe you're thinking of the GM Island thread on Mabination?

No. Excelled posted all these event NPCs and whatnot. I still have them

They were unpacked from official files... I think.

[Galwow]

two things: how is my brain supposed to handle the cokeevent folder? i can't even imagine how out of place that must look like
the second one comes after i tested something and only if it didn't work (it's something about morrighan)
alright it didn't work (i thought it's only because i'm trying to start morrighan from a shortcut instead of the .bat file but that didn't really change my situation) i'm getting to the login screen and can't proceed past it because it wants me to login like i would on the aura server
i'm honestly just glad that i got pale to start without any problems (although messing that up is probably impossible)

Edited March 24, 2016 by Galwow

[exec]

1 hour ago, Galwow said:

it wants me to login like i would on the aura server

With a login form you mean? Yea, there's no way around that.

[Galwow]

okay this time i really could be called blind or dumb both would be correct
i only tried using the first part of my e-mail address instead of the full one like i would with the nexon launcher... whoops
well at least i can start logging the ptj's now and if still needed the G1 newbie questline